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latine (breviter) descriptum
Muke (disputatio | conlationes)
about wiktionary categories, more about language categories, misc
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==Latine==
Species categoriarum sunt quattuor:
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* '''Per thema''' ubi dictiones per thema collocantur; [[:Categoria:Per thema|Per thema]].
* '''Taxinomia''' ubi nomina animalium per taxin familiae (vel superiorem taxin, si nomen generalius sit) collocantur. Vide [[:Categoria:Taxinomia|Taxinomia]].
 
Etiam [[:Categoria:§ Victionarium|§ Victionarium]] est ubi paginae de recensione Victionario sunt.
 
==Anglice==
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*:Like [[:Category:Radice formīc]]: using macrons for vowel length, and maybe old diphthongs if recorded...
* [[:Category:Radices Graecae|Greek roots]]
*:Like [[:Category:Radice hᾱϝελι]]: In Greek script; use digamma, and h instead of breathing accents; use macrons, but not acute or circumflex (stressaccent not being part of the root)
* Roots from other languages
*: Titled like <nowiki>[[Category:Radice ''lingua'' ''radix'']]</nowiki>, e.g. [[:Category:Radice Anglica niht]].
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The choice of which form of a root with multiple forms, such as ablaut or varying spellings, to stand as a category may be somewhat arbitrary, but it may be best to choose one that can be seen in most of its derivatives, or is the most straightforward reflex of its reconstructed protoform... For Semitic languages probably the original triliteral root is the best way to go.
 
''Reconstructed'' roots are volatile, and I have been placing infoboxes linking them to their proposed reflexes, inrather preferencethan to givinggive them their own categories; e.g. [[:Categoria:Radice equ|Radice equ]].
 
Sometimes a root from a proto-language suggests a form that is shorter than any form found in a daughter language: for a poor example, [[:Category:Radice fīl|Radice fīl]], whichever root it belongs to, its protoroot is only fī-, and the -l- is an addition. For these purposes it might be easier to name it the form found in the language (and in a case such as this where the shorter form may be ascribed to one or another root, cross-reference the other roots it may be a submember of).
 
===Languages===
IWe proposehave a category of languages, like the language indices on en:, where aeach category would listlists all the wordsentries in a language (and perhaps miscellaneous articles on it, such as the ones in [[:en:Wiktionary:Latin index]]). For this we could use a modified version of theThe <tt><nowiki>{{-xx-}}</nowiki></tt> codes used on nl:.other Wiktionaries are (Forslightly modified here, to include a parameter to ensure the language is sorted correctly in its own category; an example Iof puthow init is done is at [[:CategoryCategoria:Lingua AragonicaPolonica|Lingua Polonica]], thoughwhere there's[[ból]] notis reallysorted anythingbetween [[bor]] and [[brat (pl)|brat]] by using the special sequence <tt>oʹ</tt> to represent the letter ó (which in itan yetunmodified system would sort between ''z'' and ''ą''). Another example is that Latin ''v'' and ''u'' should sort together (use V initially and u elsewhere; e.g. [[volvo]] should sort with the key 'Voluo').
 
At the moment the category interface doesn't appear to handle large amounts of data well, but I expect it will improve before it becomes a problem at our rate of growth.
 
===Topic===
Some words categorize by topic better than others, and every topic should probably categorize by its own logic. Stuff I am putting forward so far:
 
*Topic categories shouldntshouldn't be subcategorized by language (e.g. ''Aegyptus'' and ''Egypt'' both go in [[:Category:Nationes]])
*:If this isn't a good idea then maybe just a twofold division, like [[:Category:Nationes]] and [[:Category:Nationes in aliis linguis]].
 
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*:(Some countries might not have a good Latin name for them, and maybe a template to automatically categorize them might be in order, so it can all be changed at once if a better name is found.)
 
*Living things: I suggest they be subcategorized by family. Family-level seems to be a decent compromise between too-specific (and possibly quickly going out of date) and too-general (and thus too broad to be useful). Of course if the word itself is a general term, it would go under the lowest category that encompasses them all.
 
*Others?
 
===Wiktionary===
Pages (such as this one) that are geared more towards editors than users of the dictionary go into subcategories of [[:Category:§ Victionarium|§ Victionarium]]. The mark '§' before a category is used to separate it from the regular category space. (Is this necessary/useful?) Some older meta categories don't have the §.
 
[[Categoria:§ Victionarium]]
[[Category:Categoriae]]