Victionarium:Taberna/Tabularium/2011

The name of K

Hello. I am very sorry for not being able to speak Latin. I have a question on the name of K. Most of the books I have checked say the Latin name of K is kā, but Le latin sans peine (written in French) says it is kappa just like Greek. Did K have two names in Latin? Do you think it is a reliable source of information? — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

I believe ka is the usual name. Does Le latin sans peine cite evidence for its assertion? I can see how it might be possible; perhaps, taking the opinion of someone like Isidore who wrote Omnia autem Graeca nomina qualicumque sequente vocali per K sunt scribenda, "All Greek words should be written with K, whichever vowel follows it," someone might take that to mean K was a foreign letter that thus kept its foreign name — but I've never seen that opinion held elsewhere. Neither 'kappa' nor 'cappa' appear to be in Lewis & Short (though koppa is, [1]). —Mucius Tever 05:06, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer. It seems to me to be a consensus here that K be read ka. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:18, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Apostrophe

Another question. I have found you use the Unicode apostrophe ’ instead of the ASCII apostrophe ' in I’m, Rome wasn’t built in a day, and wasn’t. Is that intentional? As far as I know, only French Wiktionary uses the former, and we have an interwiki problem (see the table in my page). — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think there are bigger interwiki problems than apostrophe if you are looking for all pages to have the same title. I don't think many other Wiktionaries use disambiguation pages, either. The apostrophe is intentional, and there ought to be redirects from the ' versions to the ’ versions. —Mucius Tever 05:20, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

We French Wiktionarians first tried to have interwiki links with different titles (such as ’ for '), but finally we have accepted the de facto same-title rule (vigorously maintained by User:Interwicket). We had no other choice, because the English version works as a pivot of interwiki links. Several other language versions rejected our solution (namely Frisian, Dutch, and Limburgish: see fr:Utilisateur:TAKASUGI Shinji#Interwikis et redirections). You have the same problem as ours. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:40, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

§

Ahoy, I'm new here to Victionarium (not to wikis though). I'm currently trying to figure out the structure of the wiki, but all these category names with the section sign (§) in them and the fact that the category names have "Exempla" in them are confusing me, so my question is, why are a lot of the categories like this at the moment?

-CeNobiteElf 15:16, 22 Maii 2011 (UTC)

The § categories were meant to be those meta-categories that are relevant to Victionarium itself and the editing thereof (as opposed to categorization of the lemmas themselves). There are a few exceptions that have not been updated to use this convention yet—in particular, I believe Categoria:§ Exempla inflexionis came first but some editors have been using Categoria:Formulae declinationum etc. sans § instead.

'Exemplum' is one thing templates were called before namespaces had translations. (The Template: namespace was translated to 'Formula:' due to a consensus at Vicipaedia, I believe.) I seem to remember at one point trying to make 'exempla' the generic form and 'formula' specifically for those templates that took parameters or otherwise needed to be filled in (but I don't think this was ever very rigorously done, or officially instituted). —Mucius Tever 01:08, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, are there any plans to actually fully update these categories and fix the structure, ie merge the categories, get rid of redundancies, etc.? Victionarium is relatively small at the moment, gonna be a bigger problem when it reaches higher number of pages and templates...

-CeNobiteElf 10:40, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Eventually, I'm sure. My own work here is pretty slow, due to juggling time with other projects. —Mucius Tever 22:56, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

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